Recorded May 2, 2008.
Rich was Frank’s ENT doctor for over twenty years who became a dear friend. Frank called Rich one of his favorite people to be with.

This is the third time that Rich Kerbavaz was a guest on The Shaman’s Den. This was during the time that Frank was running for President of the U.S. He asked Rich to come on the show this time as a doctor who knew the medical system to compare Frank’s healthcare plan to the other major candidates at that time. This is the chart that we used on the show:

Compare Frank’s healthcare plan to those of John McCain, Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton

btw, Rich also took us on his yacht to help spread the word of the Campaign. What a fun adventure that was!!!

Presidential Campaign Cruise